Color Correction

Argonaut · Posted: Mon Nov 21, 2005 11:28 pm Post subject: Color Correction

Question for Jonathan:

They recently came out with an expansion for Adobe Premiere Pro called Film Looks. This made me wonder, can I do manual color correction with Adobe to get the exact look that I want?
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Ken Gawne · Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 12:18 am Post subject:

I dont know the technicalities but I know Joanthan does a LOT of color correction to the footage and that color correction is a very significant part of acheiving the film look.

Ken
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I prefer Magic Bullet Suite for my colour correcting, and a handfull of other programs. I use Colour correction and magic bullet suite for about ALL my footage :)
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Smith · Posted: Tue Nov 22, 2005 10:45 am Post subject:

I remember the guys at FXhome were supposed to be coming out with a new cheap color grading programme software. I think it was to be called DigiGrade.
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Argonaut · Posted: Wed Nov 23, 2005 11:18 pm Post subject:

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Smith · Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 11:40 am Post subject:

It was in development, but they've not brought it out. It looked good from the overview, but it's removed from their product list now. It was about Â£50 (or $50).
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Argonaut · Posted: Thu Nov 24, 2005 9:47 pm Post subject:

Dang. Oh well.
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Jonathan Lawrence · Director Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 203

On the opening 5 I used my friends Big FX Film FX - I really like all the control + I did alot of CC - mostly to the gamma curves. The Trailer had NO post filmic processing except for CC , Again mostly in the gamma. We shot 30p and lit for film.
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The Professor · Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 5:15 pm Post subject:

Hello everybody! I'm new here... You're doing a great job with this Movie! Simply wonderful. I can't wait to enjoy the final product... thanx for making a dream come true: see Indy in action again...

Well, compliments apart (all deserved!), I just wanna make a question.. I'm not an expert and I don't know the softwares to change colors in a movie file, so, Jonathan, I can't understand the difference between the tecniques you applied to the trailer and those applied to the opening sequence. But are you going to make the movie in the colors/Photography of the trailer or in the colors of the opening sequence?

I must say i prefere much more the photography of the opening sequence. It fits perfectly with the Indy-style... it's perfect. The trailer is in a very good quality, but it seems missing that "motion picture" touch, and his photography is more close to a documentary one.
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Jonathan Lawrence · Director Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 203

Very interesting point of view. I must say I don't see documentary style anywhere in the trailer except for a couple hand held shots that were unavoidable. The entire film is quite cinematic and nicley matches the style of the opening. The colors are different simply because the california desert is dry and brown and scottland is wet and green, (Like most of our wonderful crew---Hehehe! Much love gang) Anyway thanks for being here and keep on posting.
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Ken Gawne · Posted: Tue Aug 15, 2006 8:50 pm Post subject:

Jonathan

I dont think he means the style he means the look. The desert stuff has that film look quality to it whereas the stuff shot on the XL2s in Scotland looks more 'realtime'. I think it could be to do with the variation in frame rate - its something I noticed myself as well.

Ken
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The Professor · Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 11:01 am Post subject:

Thanx for answering so quickly!

Actually, Jonathan, Ken expressed in right words what I meant (the fact is that, being italian, I find a little difficult to say with the correct english terms my thoughts about technical matters! Embarassed

)... It's not the shots that aren't right, neither the colors (obviously depending on which location you shoot in), just the "look"... but it wasn't meant to be a critic, just a consideration in a field that's not mine (I'm completley ignorant about movie editing and photography!). Confused

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Smith · Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 12:24 pm Post subject:

I also note that as well. To me it looks like he hasn't done any colour correction on it nor has it been de-interlaced. it doesn't quite have that same texture to it that the opening five minutes has, but I am sure once the final cut is done the rushes will be treated to give it that sharper look.
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VP · Posted: Wed Aug 16, 2006 3:26 pm Post subject:

Yeah my friend noticed the same, he's made a couple of Finnish Mafia movies and a western that was shot on Super 8.
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Jonathan Lawrence · Director Joined: 16 Aug 2005 Posts: 203

OKAY - Real quick..... I am suprised that people think the desert looks more filmlike than the trailer because the desert was shot on NTSC 4:3 INTERLACED.... The rest of the project was shot NTSC Native 16:9 PROGRESSIVE (30p) ... at any rate This will all be taken care of in the end - Not to worry. BTW I am finishing the movie look with Magic Bullet Looks and Magic bullet Frames....... When you shout VIDEO the lighting and color grading are E V E R Y T H I N G when it comes to the look..... but without STORY u got squat...
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Smith · Posted: Fri Sep 19, 2008 10:00 pm Post subject:

Everyone these days does a bit of grading on anything they shoot. I've stepped up to Full HiDef now and even then we are still grading the footage even tho at Hi-Def it looks kick ass.

I edit in house at Final Cut and i am pleased with the results.

end of the day its whatever does the trick. if the film is shot well and made well with a good story all the other bits and pieces do is polish it all up.
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